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Poster: DeadATL Date: Nov 12, 2010 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Dead Head or Deadhead

Which spelling do you prefer and why? I typically use that the latter but I think the former is "official."

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 12, 2010 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Rasta - you're on the right track... Deadhead is a noun, and gets my vote. I'm not dead (yet), nor am I dead in the head. As two words dead head makes dead into an adjective describing said head.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Nov 12, 2010 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Deadhead is more logical IMO.

This post was modified by skuzzlebutt on 2010-11-12 19:39:13

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Nov 12, 2010 3:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Nowadays I prefer to think of myself as a NotQuiteDeadHead.

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Poster: BataviaSparky Date: Nov 12, 2010 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead or tour rat

We were calling 'em tour rats as far back as mid-80's. Rarely even got into shows (or cared to,unless they gate-crashed, of which they bragged about, or snuck in, or used phoney tix. One girl I knew well claimed she made herself invisible and simply walked in to every show), sported those phoney ass dreads that were simply tangled up hair (I knew this little Italian kid who actually went to a hair stylist and paid to have his hair put into dreads!), they mooch everything, spread head lice (I know first hand, gave some chick a ride and we all ended up with the bugs!), and on and on.

I suppose they are a fact of life in the Dead scene, but I always felt they made us look bad and I still to this day cringe when someone calls me a deadhead, even though I suppose I technically am!

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 12, 2010 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Imo, Dead Head sounds a bit morbid to the unknowing
Deadhead - one word, is a pronoun, wait - adjetive? crap, i knew in grade skool! Rob...help!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 12, 2010 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Some other definitions of deadhead:

a return flight made by a commercial aircraft without any cargo or paying passengers on board

to remove dead flowers from a plant in order to encourage the growth of new ones, and to prevent the production of seeds

a nonenterprising person who is not paying his way

a person either admitted to a theatrical or musical performance without charge, or paid to attend

an old log which has lost most of its buoyancy, and now floats nearly vertical, with one end down, and the upper end just at or below water level. Deadheads are common in old harbors where logs were floated in for loading on boats.

and my favourite:
a fictional character from the Wild Cards book series. He is an Ace, someone granted super-powers by exposure to the Wild Card virus, but the disturbing nature of his power has driven him nearly insane.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 12, 2010 11:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

I don't like either because of the negative connotations some of which in my opinion are deserved.

flame away

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 12, 2010 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

aha - pronoun! like Parrothead, Phishead. Deadhead does invoke images of the gypsy type I see in Deadlots, I can see your point Johnny.
now bald head vs baldhead..

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 12, 2010 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

I was working in Berkeley circa 89-91 and everytime the band was playing before and after there would be an increased influx of the dreaded trust fund hippy. I couldnt stand them. Not bathing, asking and expecting handouts, walking around Berkeley with no shoes ( FILTHY ), talking in their poseur " kind" lingo with all the brother and sister crap. To me it was all so PHONEY and every bit as fake as any other fashion trend or clique. Most of these kids grew up in the suburbs and many of them were still being financed by mommy and daddy and just exactly what is wrong with bathing anyway? And they always had this gossipy bullshit they'd talk, and MOST of them knew more about their mooching I'm so free I don't have to work scene than knew anything about the music.

This post was modified by johnnyonthespot on 2010-11-12 19:49:38

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 12, 2010 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

How do you really feel? Don't hold back.

I have to say I know exactly the type you are talking about. I had some "friends" in school who fit this category to a T. Now while maybe not "rich", they certainly did not want for much and seemed to spend a good deal of cash on clothes that they hoped would make them look like a "real hippy deadhead". Tour time would come around and they would quickly whip out this garb that they never wore anytime else. I have more respect for the dudes at shows in Polo shirts and LL Bean khakis. It's all about being comfortable about who you are and not giving a shit about what everyone else thinks.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 12, 2010 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

oh yeah and another thing - never did see the band fitting into that either.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Nov 12, 2010 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Mmmm.. I think Bob Weir might have fit the part in 1965.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 12, 2010 3:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

yeah there's some good evidence. one or two years out of 30.yeah and Garcia wore a couple of tie dies in 1970.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 12, 2010 5:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

I always thought that was one the reasons that Weir wore his lavender polo shirt on stage endlessly in the mid-80s.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 12, 2010 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

hahaha! No I'm usually not accused of being one who doesnt say whats on their mind. I didn't like those types for a lot of reason but something I found to be ironic as well as true is 1) in those days if you found ANYONE who was really into the band, I mean really studied it, new the tunes, collected tapes, I would say well over 90% of the time they looked like college types and probably were. Not only that but would be into some other really great music. ie had open minds and expanded horizons. very eclectic charaacters

and 2) I knew quite a few characters who had been around a lot longer than me, who had hog farm ties etc and they NEVER looked the part either and truth be told didnt care for what the scene was turning into either - except for the young chicks of course

AND I'd say all of these characters were way more bent and interesting - and handled their chemicals better

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 12, 2010 5:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Right on. The "older" heads I knew were the same. Looked like Bay Area people in their 30's and 40's(at the time). They had their share of fun, but never acted stoned. They were always very interesting, ambitious and articulate. I learned a great deal from these people. Not the lot-heads. The "brother and sister" thing always grossed-me-out too. I always felt like those people thought they were part of the show. They were not. Not for me.

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Poster: Reade Date: Nov 12, 2010 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Right On.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 12, 2010 1:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

"It's all about being comfortable about who you are and not giving a shit about what everyone else thinks."

One of the reasons I have such a high regard for Neil Young - who just happens to be 65 today. Happy Birthday, Shakey.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 12, 2010 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Happy B-day to Mr Young for sure! Just happened to see that on Yahoo or some such before logging on here, and was surprised no one mentioned it til now.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 12, 2010 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

Maybe I ought to have started a new thread for Neil, but SDH's observation just really seemed to fit, so there it is.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Nov 12, 2010 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

From robthewordsmith - a nonenterprising person who is not paying his way

Sounds spot on to me.

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Poster: moe-larry-curly Date: Nov 12, 2010 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead Head or Deadhead

same here... it's neither one for me... i'm a dead-head!